A rap with RJ Brown, the slave player in ‘White Noise’ at Studio

You cannot watch his performance in this shocking role without feeling agitated and aghast — and he was willing to talk about it.

The actor RJ Brown appears as Leo in Suzan-Lori Parks’s White Noise (running through February 20 at Studio Theater), and he really does play a slave — owned by his white friend Ralph. You cannot watch Brown’s performance in this shocking role without feeling agitated and aghast.  

Here is how I described the scene in my blown-away review:

It’s a chilling tableau, an indelible image with a horrific history. Leo and Ralph are alone in [Ralph’s] apartment. Leo stands on a coffee table wearing a shirt that says SLAVE and around his neck an iron collar with four prongs such as was once used to punish and prevent the escape of actual enslaved Africans. Leo is not play-acting. This is not an S&M scene. It’s no joke. Leo is doing as he was ordered by Ralph, his master and overlord at the moment, and Leo is dissolving in agony.

Watching Brown’s performance, I could not but be awed:

Brown is magnetic as he takes us steadily and credibly from Leo’s engaging opening monologUE (in which he explains that his good friend Ralph gave him a white noise machine to help him sleep) to the pained depths of his demeaning.

RJ Brown as Leo in ‘White Noise.’ Photo by Margot Schulman.

Brown agreed to talk with me about it. We met in the sunny third-floor atrium at Studio between performances on a two-show day. I found him relaxed, open, warm, gracious — not at all what might be expected after the trauma he had just portrayed on stage.

John: How did you come to be cast in White Noise, and what were your first thoughts when you got the part?

RJ: I love Suzan-Lori Parks and when I got an audition before Thanksgiving I was elated. I had a bunch of auditions that week, so I only memorized the [opening] monologue. Did the audition, got a callback, got the show. Then I sat down and read the script from beginning to end, and I was like, How do I digest this!?

White Noise is a provocative play. It doesn’t comfort its audience. It’s Suzan-Lori Parks: at times light and entertaining, at times deep and dark. What has been your experience from the stage of how audiences are taking it, what audiences are making of it?

That is a question we as the actors talk about every single night. Suzan wrote a very light yet deep yet scary yet funny play. And because it takes such a sharp turn, audiences that feel comfortable in knowing this play can be funny, despite the dark humor, give us more energy. Susan did a great job — the joy of it is that there is darkness and there is lightness sometimes at the same time. For the actors, our favorite audiences allow themselves to feel both.

How do you think about the character you play, Leo? How did you approach the part?

There’s a lot of text, so the first thing I did was memorize a bunch of words. Once the words were in my body, it became a different show for me. I could actually hear what Suzan means by the subtleties of certain words she chooses. There’s a rhyme to the reason.

Katie Kleiger (as Dawn) and RJ Brown (as Leo) in ‘White Noise.’ Photo by Margot Schulman.

What does the role mean to you?

Reg our director mentioned that this play is about friendship. Instead of taking on the idea of slavery and Blackness and police brutality, let’s talk about this core group of friends. So we broke it down: Who are these four people and how do they like each other in this scene? Do they not like each other in this scene? Why do they not like each other? That was very helpful: seeing Leo as a friend, Ralph’s friend. We are best friends.

Since the memorization is now in my body, Leo has become someone I feel for. My main goal is trying to get the audience to understand why he would do his extreme experiment [ask Ralph to buy and own him]. When I read it, I was like, I would never do this; this doesn’t make any sense. But after doing the experiment eight times a week, Leo and I are pretty close now. I’ve come to understand Leo, and I want the audience to see and understand Leo also.

Leo has an extraordinarily intense character arc in the play. I was knocked out by how your performance managed the challenge of the role. “The world is breaking my spirit…” Leo says at one point, and we see that, we feel that.  He goes from affable to fighting back tears to traumatized before our eyes.


How have you personally dealt with all of what Leo goes through emotionally and psychically in the play?

Leo’s arc is exhausting and expansive. One day for rehearsal only Ralph and I showed up and we ran every scene in order. The relationship changes quite a bit. So now as I run it, I’m able to track and understand it as I go along.

If you’re talking about emotional self-care, I need to take a minute by myself after the [slave] collar scene. There’s a lot of me separating RJ from Leo. I just need a dark corner to like think through it, then go back on stage.

After the show’s over, I go home, watch The Sopranos, sit on my couch, drink a lot of water, take some Ricola. I talk to my girlfriend [back in Brooklyn]. I remind myself that the show is separate from who I am.

The journey you go into with that character is really a major performance. I hope it gets seen —

I hope it is too.

—and appreciated.

Thank you.

Quinn Franzen (as Ralph) and RJ Brown (as Leo) in ‘White Noise.’ Photo by Margot Schulman.

Besides being an actor, you’re also a producer at Floor 1 Productions* and a director. What have you learned from the creative process at Studio and from Reg Douglas’s direction in particular?

He’s a smart guy who plays it down. Reg trusted us to play and figure this out. And because it’s such a huge undertaking — the biggest undertaking I’ve ever done as an actor — he allowed us to find things at our own pace. Reg allowed us to blossom ourselves. He gives a lot of freedom. He would give us suggestions, not demands. And a lot of the blocking came from organic movement. We would ask, What does this mean? And he goes, What do you think it means? And we would answer. And then we would agree, find a common ground.

I sensed on stage a kind of trust implicit in the staging.


What behind the scenes was done to work out the physical intimacy and the racial tensions in the play? How does a cast of this configuration come to trust one another on all those levels?

We are all extremely professional. Each of us had our own way of dealing with whatever character arc that we are doing. And one beautiful thing we’ve all done organically is finding the common ground together. So for example, every day after the show, literally after the turntable turns, the four of us huddle up and we hug each other. Before we start, we huddle up, and we hug each other in between scenes. After the [slave] collar scene, I don’t take the collar off; Quinn [Franzen, who plays Ralph] takes the collar off of me and we hug. It’s really beautiful. We find these little touch-and-goes, moments that allow us to know: you’re Quinn, you’re not Ralph; I’m RJ, I’m not Leo. We’re doing a play. Good to see you. We do this tangential check-in then also allow ourselves space. Because my character has such a wide arc, I need a good amount of space before and after. And they allow that to me, which is great.

Katie Kleiger (Dawn), RJ Brown (Leo), Tatiana Williams (Misha), and Quinn Franzen (Ralph) in ‘White Noise.’ Photo by Margot Schulman.

This morning I had an interpretive thought about your character and the play and I want to run it by you.

Leo has an idea that incites the action of the play. He gets the idea in the shower the morning after he experienced his vulnerability to police violence. His idea is that if he as a Black man is owned by and under the protection of a big somebody, Ralph in this case, who is white, he will be safe. That concept applied to race in white supremacy today is shocking and offensive. We have to suspend disbelief to go along with Parks’s play at this point because it seems so fictional and surreal. If you do go along, it’s worth the ride, but it’s a leap.


The very same concept applied to sex in male supremacy is ordinary and unremarkable: Individual women choose to be owned by a big male somebody for protection and safety all the time.

Yeah, that’s true.

And just as in Parks’s play where we see the power of possession over a Black man go to the head of the big white somebody — Ralph swells with authoritarian white pride and gets abusive toward Leo —

Yeah, he does.

— in male supremacy, individual men’s power of possession over a woman goes to men’s heads all the time.

Every day. Patriarchal society. It’s not only race, it’s doubled; it’s compounded by race and sex.

When I was reading this play the very first time, the leap [Leo’s being owned by Ralph] was extreme, but after doing the play for a couple weeks, the extremity of the leap is less so because Parks makes a huge point of white noise — literally meaning the machine and then the grand idea of it. Safety is a concept that Parks is using literally with me being a slave to Ralph. But metaphorically speaking, whiteness is a so-believed safe space. That safeness, that white noise, that whiteness, that vast ocean of it, is like, Oh, I’m safe here. And I think that’s what Leo is looking for.

The cast of ‘White Noise.’ Photos courtesy of the artists.

What do you tell people when you tell them why they should see the show?

I’m still trying to figure that out, because the show is such a high concept. I’m experimenting with this description now: I ask them if they know of the Stanford Prison Experiment. The Stanford Prison Experiment [1971, made into a 2015 movie] was a real social experiment in which [researchers] gave ordinary people roles of prison guard and prisoner to play [in a simulated prison]. But the experiment had to be cut off early because the two roles were taken too seriously. Prison guards were abusing their power. So now I say: If you know of the Stanford Prison Experiment, White Noise is that show with friendship and slavery. That allows them to know that it’s fake but it’s real, and it becomes more real.

What didn’t I ask that you feel needs to be said?

At this point, I am interested in how the show is being received. I would love for people to send us your thoughts about the show. It is the only thing I am thinking every night after I finish the show: What are people getting from this? I know what I get, but I’m in it. I want to know what it’s doing for other people. Who do you think this play is for? Is it for people of color or is it for white people or is it for both? I just am interested in what other people are thinking of the play, and I would love to know. So email Studio Theatre [[email protected]]. It’s my call to action.

White Noise plays through February 20, 2022, at Studio Theatre’s Milton Theatre, 1501 14th Street NW, Washington, DC. Tickets start at $65, with low-cost options and discounts available, and can be purchased online or by calling (202) 332-3300.

Running Time: Two hours and 30 minutes including a 15-minute intermission.

COVID Safety: Proof of vaccination (or a negative COVID test) and facemask are required. Studio Theatre’s complete Health and Safety protocols are here.

RJ Brown (he/him) is an actor and filmmaker in Brooklyn. His theater credits include MOPE at Ensemble Studio Theatre and numerous plays and musicals at The Muny in St. Louis. His most recent professional television credits include Caleb in 13 Reasons Why and Thomas West in The Carrie Diaries, with recurring roles in GirlsThe BlacklistBlue Bloods, and The Breaks. Film credits include The Frontrunner starring Hugh Jackman and The Land of the Steady Habits directed by Nicole Holofcener. RJ currently serves as the co-founder of the production company Floor 1 Productions. He holds a Musical Theatre degree from the University of Michigan and is on Instagram at @rjbrownjr.

*Floor 1 Productions — the award-winning New York City–based production company that RJ co-runs with Ian M Adelson — has a feature-length documentary premiering on PBS on Veterans Day. For more information visit Floor 1 Productions on Instagram (@floor1prod).


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John Stoltenberg
John Stoltenberg is executive editor of DC Theater Arts. He writes both reviews and his Magic Time! column, which he named after that magical moment between life and art just before a show begins. In it, he explores how art makes sense of life—and vice versa—as he reflects on meanings that matter in the theater he sees. Decades ago, in college, John began writing, producing, directing, and acting in plays. He continued through grad school—earning an M.F.A. in theater arts from Columbia University School of the Arts—then lucked into a job as writer-in-residence and administrative director with the influential experimental theater company The Open Theatre, whose legendary artistic director was Joseph Chaikin. Meanwhile, his own plays were produced off-off-Broadway, and he won a New York State Arts Council grant to write plays. Then John’s life changed course: He turned to writing nonfiction essays, articles, and books and had a distinguished career as a magazine editor. But he kept going to the theater, the art form that for him has always been the most transcendent and transporting and best illuminates the acts and ethics that connect us. He tweets at @JohnStoltenberg. Member, American Theatre Critics Association.


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